Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Playing for the win or just stupid?

Full Tilt Poker Game #7254280737: The Mookie (54411549), Table 4 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:47:49 ET - 2008/07/16
Seat 1: cemfredmd (4,430)
Seat 2: PirateLawyer (23,175) <=OMG
Seat 3: emoryiowa (7,025)
Seat 4: Breeze81 (13,360)
Seat 5: -WYLDKARD- (2,665)
Seat 7: bayne_s (5,195)
Seat 8: columbo (6,060) <= got the worst of a hand earlier and fought back.
Seat 9: DDionysus (3,715)
antes 25
-WYLDKARD- posts the small blind of 150
bayne_s posts the big blind of 300

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to columbo [Jh Js]
UTG columbo raises to 1,000 (1/2 hoping for call, 1/2 not)
DDionysus folds
cemfredmd folds
PirateLawyer raises to 2,200 (this could just be a big stack raise?)

I start to think that I will shove when it comes back around...

emoryiowa folds
Breeze81 folds
-WYLDKARD- folds
bayne_s raises to 4,400
columbo: wtf?
columbo has 15 seconds left to act
columbo has requested TIME

Here is what I start thinking.... There are 24 runners left. Do I want to just eek out my existence or try and get some chips? Its a tough call. But I start to formulate a plan. If I shove here, PL has to fold. He cant think we is ahead with 2 re-raises. So estimate his fold here (even though he has lots of chips) at 90% if I shove. Then I am heads up with Bayne with 2.5k in dead chips.

BUT, Bayne is NOT a steal-y player. He has a hand here, no doubt.

So, do you play this hand, or fold it?

9 comments:

pokerpeaker said...

This would be a good One Minute Mystery, and I'm not just being a dork here. I'm serious. Good question. For Bayne to do that, because he knows you're a good player who raised in EP, I probably fold, especially after he sees the re-raise.
But I'm a nit.

Mike Maloney said...

Pretty much always folding there.

Shrike said...

I would have folded in your spot.

Ironically I had a middle PP that flopped a set here. I'll blog about this hand too when I post a Mookie report (finished 4th).

Csaba K├ętszeri said...

As there are crying calls, i think there are crying folds too, and this is one of theese.
Based on your description, i may even consider folding the ladies, instafolding tens... folding the jacks with a deep sigh.

Bayne_S said...

I'll let you in on a secret.

I need more of a hand to reraise your UTG raise than I need to come over the top of a PL reraise.

lj said...

columbo -- against many players i'm not folding here but i don't think bayne is three betting light, and there's a good chance your JJ is no good.

shrike -- your comment here/action in the hand is exactly why i'm never folding my K6 flush draw to you.

Shrike said...

LJ - Good to know. I'm glad my range is seen as breathtakingly wide. Makes for good advertising.

Yes, I was making a stack/position raise here. Probably a mistake but I was hoping columbo had two big Broadway cards and I could get in a race at worst. Once Bayne comes in, I am done with the hand.

Godard said...

If when you bet 1000 you're already half hoping for a fold, then you can't possibly be happy playing for all your chips facing two reraises.

Crying fold for sure.

Drizztdj said...

Turbo fold due to the names and action.